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Post by Macka on Oct 2, 2014 20:45:34 GMT
Third time going through, will double check my scoring:
Josh confessional (+10) Baylor confessional (+10) Jeremy confessional (+10) Kelley confessional (+10) Jon confessional (+10) ---INTRO--- Julie wins duel (+20) Rocker sent to exile (-10) Jeremy sent to exile (-5) Jon confessional (+5) ~ Missy confessional (+5) Natalie confessional (+5) Josh confessional (+5) ---EXILE--- Jeremy confessional (+5) Jeremy clue (+5) Shared with Rocker? Jeremy pretty much narrates this whole segment, maybe it counts as two confessionals? ---CHALLENGE--- Natalie gives back idol (+5) Hunhapu wins immunity (+11 to all but Julie) Val confessional (+5) ~ Dale confessional (+5) Val confessional (+5) Rocker confessional (+5) Rocker finds idol (+20) Rocker confessional (+5) Rocker confessional (+5) Val confessional (+5) Josh confessional (+5) ---TRIBAL--- Dale question (+5) Alec talks (+5) Alec question (+5) Rocker talks (+5) Josh question (+5) Val question (+5) Baylor question (+5) Jaclyn talks (+5) Jaclyn question (+5) Val talks (+5) Baylor talks (+5) Wes question (+5) Alec talks (+5) Baylor talks (+5) Wes question (+5) Val question (+5) Baylor question (+5) ---VOTES--- Baylor vote shown (+5) Rocker vote shown (+5) Wes vote shown (+5) Val vote shown? It was over the shoulder, don't know if that counts. ~ Val votes received (-12) Baylor votes received (-12) ~ Rocker revote shown (+5) ~ Baylor +10 voting right person Alec +10 voting right person Dale +10 voting right person Wes +10 voting right person
Rocker +1 voting wrong person Josh +1 voting wrong person Val +1 voting wrong person Jaclyn +1 voting wrong person
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Post by Macka on Oct 2, 2014 21:11:34 GMT
Episode 2 scores according to me:
Rocker (-10+5+20+5+5+5+5+5+1) = 41 Baylor (10+5+5+5+5+5+10-12) = 33 Josh (10+5+5+5+1) = 26 Jon (10+5+11) = 26 Jeremy (10-5+5+5+11) = 26 Wes (5+5+5+10) = 25 Alec (5+5+5+10) = 25 Natalie (5+5+11) = 21 Kelley (10+11) = 21 Dale (5+5+10) = 20 Julie (20) = 20 Val (5+5+5+5+5+5-12+1) = 19 Missy (5+11) = 16 Jaclyn (5+5+1) = 11 Keith (11) = 11 Reed (11) = 11 Drew (11) = 11
And then maybe additions based on those few things I bolded that I wasn't sure about. Considering Val would be on negative points if she was penalised based on everyone voting for her twice, I doubt you're gonna count the revotes lol. Let me know if you see anything funky (if you even use this).
Possible additions: - Does Jeremy sharing the clue immediately mean the points are divided between him and Rocker?
- Jeremy narrates the Exile segment. It feels like one big confessional, but because of its length it might count as two.
- We see Val writing Baylor's name down over her shoulder. Don't think this counted last season, but listed in case.
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Post by Macka on Oct 2, 2014 21:15:14 GMT
I think I did pretty well this week
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Post by Macka on Oct 9, 2014 1:11:32 GMT
After the first viewing:
Baylor confessional 10 Rocker confessional 10 Josh confessional 10 Drew confessional 10 Missy confessional 10 Keith confessional 10 Natalie confessional 10 Jeremy confessional 10 - Josh confessional 5 Keith sent to exile -10 Wes wins duel +20 Josh sent to exile -5 Jeremy confessional +5 - Jeremy confessional 5 Natalie confessional 5 Julie confessional 5 Josh confessional 5 Keith confessional 5 Keith clue 5 Keith confessional 5 Josh confessional 5 Keith confessional 5 Josh confessional 5 Keith confessional 5 Rocker confessional 5 Wes confessional 5 Baylor confessional 5 Alec confessional 5 - Natalie gives idol back 5 Hunhapu wins immunity (-Keith) Josh confessional 5 - Baylor confessional 5 Baylor confessional 5 Rocker confessional 5 Josh confessional 5 Baylor confessional 5 Alec confessional 5 Rocker confessional 5 Josh confessional 5 - Rocker question Wes question Alec question Rocker talks Rocker question Jaclyn question Jaclyn question Wes question Josh question Baylor question Jaclyn question Rocker vote shown Baylor vote shown - Baylor votes against -6 Rocker votes against -15
Votes for right person: Josh, Alec, Wes, Baylor, Jaclyn +10 Votes for wrong person: Dale, Rocker +1
Rocker votes out with idol -50
#blindside for Rocker -10
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Post by Macka on Oct 9, 2014 1:25:42 GMT
Josh 10+5+5+5+5+5+5+5+5+10-5 55 Wes 20+5+5+5+10 45 Baylor 10+5+5+5+5+5+5+10-6 44 Jeremy 10+5+5+11 31 Natalie 10+5+5+11 31 Keith 10+5+5+5+5+5-10 25 Alec 5+5+5+10 25 Jaclyn 5+5+5+10 25 Drew 10+11 21 Missy 10+11 21 Julie 5+11 16 Jon 11 11 Reed 11 11 Kelley 11 11 Dale 1 1 Rocker 10+5+5+5+5+5+5+5+1, -15, -10, -50 -29
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Post by Macka on Oct 21, 2014 14:41:12 GMT
The GhostI feel like Jeremy and Keith both had 1 more confessional than you gave them points for this week. Keith16:55-17:04 - confessional 17:04-17:18 - scene of him searching for idol 17:18-17:33 - confessional - 18:51-19:07 - confessional 19:07-19:15 - scene of him finding idol 19:15-19:34 - confessional A few weeks ago you gave Rocker a confessional for before and after finding the idol. Considering it's broken up by a significant event.Jeremy18:06-18:13 - confessional 18:13-18:24 - scene of Jeremy telling Reed and Jon that Keith is looking for idol 18:24-18:36 - confessional 18:36-18:41 - scene of Jeremy telling the girls about it 18:41-18:48 - confessional - 31:00-31:14 - confessional 31:14-31:32 - scene of Jeremy trying to get Drew to vote Keith 31:32-31:40 - confessional - 33:31-33:40 - confessional (tree behind him)33:41-33:55 - scene of Drew telling Missy he doesn't trust her 33:55-34:18 - confessional (sitting in rocks)The third block (starting from 33:31) is clearly two separate confessionals, taken in different locations. First one talks about the girls wanting to take Drew out. Second one is talking about the state the guys are in. It flows well but it's definitely two!
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Post by The Ghost on Oct 22, 2014 0:36:34 GMT
I'll have to take another look and decide. With confessionals, they can be a grey area as editing can chop and change and even use two different shoots (such as the Jeremy one) to tell the whole story. My general rule is unless someone else's confessional intersects or the confessional completely changes subject, I count is as one if there's action intersecting it. Even if the confessional is from two different shoots.
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Post by Macka on Oct 22, 2014 17:18:51 GMT
I'll have to take another look and decide. With confessionals, they can be a grey area as editing can chop and change and even use two different shoots (such as the Jeremy one) to tell the whole story. My general rule is unless someone else's confessional intersects or the confessional completely changes subject, I count is as one if there's action intersecting it. Even if the confessional is from two different shoots. I take it you don't think it counts as two? Even the idol one?
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Post by The Ghost on Oct 23, 2014 1:40:56 GMT
Ok, have gone through and had a look. Keith16:55-17:04 - confessional 17:04-17:18 - scene of him searching for idol 17:18-17:33 - confessional Continuous (1 confessional) 18:51-19:07 - confessional 19:07-19:15 - scene of him finding idol 19:15-19:34 - confessional Continuous (1 confessional) Jeremy18:06-18:13 - confessional 18:13-18:24 - scene of Jeremy telling Reed and Jon that Keith is looking for idol 18:24-18:36 - confessional 18:36-18:41 - scene of Jeremy telling the girls about it 18:41-18:48 - confessional Continuous (1 confessional) 31:00-31:14 - confessional 31:14-31:32 - scene of Jeremy trying to get Drew to vote Keith 31:32-31:40 - confessional Continuous (1 confessional) 33:31-33:40 - confessional (tree behind him)33:41-33:55 - scene of Drew telling Missy he doesn't trust her 33:55-34:18 - confessional (sitting in rocks)Continuous (1 confessional, edited from 2 shoots) As for the one with Rocker previously, I should have brought the episode with me to review it. I'll take a look at it but from memory it felt like a significant enough break, whereas Keith's was definitely very continuous with his idol find being almost an overlay on the confessional. As I said before, it's a grey area and it's why I've always outlined it's at the host's discretion. But I always encourage anyone to find any errors because as awesome as I am, I'm not perfect (I know it's hard to believe). I could change it in future seasons to avoid the grey area stuff. Any intersection action/discussion means a new confessional, but that could open up another can of worms.
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Post by Macka on Oct 23, 2014 1:50:04 GMT
Nah it's cool, I'm really just trying to push the envelope and get more points.
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Post by Macka on Nov 6, 2014 5:29:45 GMT
Missy confesh Keith confesh (2:16-2:25 – I got 2 votes wtf) Keith confesh (2:49-2:59 – I'm done with Missy) Natalie treemail Josh confesh Jeremy confesh -INTRO- Keith treemail Jaclyn confesh Reed confesh Jon confesh Julie confesh Wes confesh Keith confesh Josh confesh Jeremy confesh (8:17-8:31 – Premerge was prelim) Jeremy confesh (8:45-8:59 – Alliances he has) Jeremy confesh (9:12-9:36 – Back with Jon) Jeremy confesh (9:58-10:07 – Back with Missy) Josh confesh Keith confesh Josh confesh Baylor confesh Josh confesh Missy confesh Josh confesh Jon confesh Jaclyn confesh Julie confesh #trailmixscandal (Jon, Julie) Wes confesh Jon confesh Julie confesh -CHALLENGE- Josh confesh Baylor returns idol Keith wins immunity Keith confesh - Jeremy confesh Julie confesh Missy confesh Julie confesh Jeremy confesh Josh confesh Jon confesh Jon confesh Julie confesh Julie quits -FAUX-TRIBAL- Baylor talks Jeremy confesh Natalie talks Missy talks Josh question Josh confessional Jeremy question Alec talks Baylor talks Jaclyn question Jon question Josh confesh Jeremy confesh
1. Keith = 60 2. Josh = 55 (+5?) 3. Jeremy = 50 (+5?) 4. Jon = 30 (+5?) 5. Missy = 20 (+5?) 6. Baylor = 10 (+10?) 7. Jaclyn = 10 (+5?) 8. Wes = 10 9. Natalie = 5 (+5?) 10. Reed = 5 11. Alec = 0 (+5?) 12. Julie = -65
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Post by Macka on Nov 6, 2014 5:40:41 GMT
The GhostI feel like you're going to contest that string of four Jeremy confessionals, but hear me out. In the first one Jeremy is talking about how the pre-merge was nothing and the merge is where the game starts. End of topic. In the second one, he's saying that to stay in power he needs numbers, specifically Jon/Jaclyn & Missy/Baylor. End of topic. The third is before and after talking to Jon, and the fourth is after talking to Missy. I'd say that's four confessionals since there is decent breaks between each one (smallest gap is 13 seconds) and each seems to me to be different topics, and it's a lengthy segment too. There's no real flow to these confessionals either.
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Post by The Ghost on Nov 6, 2014 14:45:34 GMT
I'm likely going to score it as 2 confessionals. It was quite lengthy and it definitely felt like a new topic when he started talking about Jon, then him talking about Missy kind of flowed from that.
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Post by Macka on Nov 13, 2014 7:19:19 GMT
Updated scoring:
Missy confesh (+10) Jon confesh (+10) -INTRO- Jeremy/Reed/Keith/Wes/Natalie win reward (+10 each) Jon sent to exile (-5) Kinda not worth having points for this and the clue anymore coz they cancel each other out. Reed confesh (+5) Natalie confesh (+5) Jeremy confesh (+5) Wes confesh (+5) Keith confesh (+5) #tacooverload (Wes/Keith +5) Wes sick, Keith named. Josh confesh (+5) Baylor confesh (+5) Josh confesh (+5) -EXILE- Jon confesh (+5) Jon idol clue (+5) Jon confesh (+5) Jon finds idol (+20) Jon confesh (+5) - Jeremy confesh (+5) Baylor confesh (+5) Missy confesh (+5) Jaclyn confesh (+5) Alec confesh (+5) -IMMUNITY- Jeremy wins immunity (+25) - Jeremy confesh (+5) Josh confesh (+5) Jon confesh (+5) Jaclyn confesh (+5) Missy confesh (+5) Baylor confesh (+5) Jon confesh (+5) Jaclyn confesh (+5) -TRIBAL- Jeremy question (+5) Josh question (+5) Wes question (+5) Jeremy question (+5) Jaclyn question (+5) Jon question (+5) Natalie question (+5) Jaclyn talks (+5) Jaclyn question (+5) Missy talks (+5) Keith talks (+5) Reed question (+5) Reed question (+5) Jeremy talks (+5) Jon question (+5) -VOTES- Alec vote shown (+5) Baylor vote shown (+5) - 5 votes Baylor (-15) 6 votes Josh (-18) - Jeremy, Natalie, Baylor, Missy, Jon, Jaclyn vote correctly (+10) Josh, Reed, Keith, Wes, Alec vote incorrectly (+1)
SCORES 1. Jeremy = 75 2. Jon = 75 3. Jaclyn = 40 4. Missy = 35 5. Natalie = 30 6. Keith = 26 7. Reed = 26 8. Wes = 26 9. Baylor = 15 10. Alec = 11 11. Josh = 3
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Post by Macka on Nov 13, 2014 8:09:54 GMT
Or does everyone in the scene get points for TacoOverload like last week with the Julie thing? edit: any chance of results tonight, The Ghost?
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